1 Timothy 3:15 and the Roman Catholic Church

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Barry Wannell said:

Is the Roman Catholic really the first Church?

1 Tim. 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Many Catholics are deceived into believing that this scripture is speaking of the “Roman” Catholic Church. Thus they are bound to remain in a church that has fallen into paganism and false doctrine, believing that it “IS THE CHURCH OF GOD”!

Catholic verses “Roman” Catholic

The term “Church” in scripture does not mean “the Roman Catholic Church”. The word “church” means “assembly, meeting, a calling out, a religious congregation” (Strongs #1577 “ekklesia”) When a scripture verse is quoted pertaining to the “church”, Catholics are taught that the reference to "the church" means the "Roman Catholic Church"! This is not true!

 

My reply: 

Is the Roman Catholic really the first Church?

Of course it is the True Church established by Jesus Christ Himself. Why Barry, what do you think? That your church is founded by God? ha ha ha

1 Tim. 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Many Catholics are deceived into believing that this scripture is speaking of the “Roman” Catholic Church. Thus they are bound to remain in a church that has fallen into paganism and false doctrine, believing that it “IS THE CHURCH OF GOD”!

1 Timothy 3:15 suits the Catholic Church more than your sect Barry. And about Catholicism being pagan, I'd suggest you give some sufficient and pertinent, not revised and distorted sources proving your stand.

The term “Church” in scripture does not mean “the Roman Catholic Church”. The word “church” means “assembly, meeting, a calling out, a religious congregation” (Strongs #1577 “ekklesia”) When a scripture verse is quoted pertaining to the “church”, Catholics are taught that the reference to "the church" means the "Roman Catholic Church"! This is not true!

Its your claims and misrepresentations that are untrue, because the name, "Catholic Church" didn't derive from English, it came from the Greek. Here's proof:

Acts 9:31, "ē men oun ekklēsia kath olēs tēs ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichen eirēnēn oikodomoumenē kai poreuomenē tō phobō tou kuriou kai tē paraklēsei tou agiou pneumatos eplēthuneto" 

See? The name of our church is "EKKLESIA KATHOLES" which literally means, "The Church throughout" or "The Universal Church" which comes up with the Catholic Church and the reason why it is called Roman, its because it was in Rome that the faith of Ekklesia Katholes spread. Here's proof from the book of Acts:

Acts 23:11, "The Lord stood near Paul and said, 'Don't be afraid! You have given your testimony about Me here in Jerusalem, now you must do the same in Rome'"

So, to change the name of our church to satisfy you and your kind? Thanks, but no thanks!

Acts 5:29, "We must obey God, not men"